Comments on: I’m Going to the Celestial Kingdom! http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/ One Mormon boy’s iconoclastic quest to remix and rectify his notions of truth, mind, myth, love, life, and transcendence. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:18:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: another loophole in mormonism « darwinian remiix http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7471 another loophole in mormonism « darwinian remiix Fri, 09 May 2008 06:35:14 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7471 [...] 8, 2008 by markii jonathan and EricSwell posted on some quotes guaranteeing the exaltation of all descendents of temple sealed [...] [...] 8, 2008 by markii jonathan and EricSwell posted on some quotes guaranteeing the exaltation of all descendents of temple sealed [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7436 Jonathan Blake Tue, 06 May 2008 15:50:15 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7436 Travis/paranoidfr33k, Your comment got caught in my spam filter. Sorry. Good luck telling your parents, though I doubt the quotes will actually comfort them in the moment. :) Travis/paranoidfr33k,

Your comment got caught in my spam filter. Sorry. Good luck telling your parents, though I doubt the quotes will actually comfort them in the moment. :)

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7422 Jonathan Blake Mon, 05 May 2008 16:06:33 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7422 My wife mentioned that the tentacles quotation was actually cited in the stake conference adult meeting last weekend. :) My wife mentioned that the tentacles quotation was actually cited in the stake conference adult meeting last weekend. :)

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7421 Jonathan Blake Mon, 05 May 2008 16:04:40 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7421 Setting aside the supernatural aspects and the Buddhist dogmas surrounding the Bodhisattva concept, working for the awakening of the universe is a worthwhile way to spend a life. Oh, and the tentacles of divine providence certain sounds more like our friend the FSM. Setting aside the supernatural aspects and the Buddhist dogmas surrounding the Bodhisattva concept, working for the awakening of the universe is a worthwhile way to spend a life.

Oh, and the tentacles of divine providence certain sounds more like our friend the FSM.

]]> By: Wayne http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7404 Wayne Fri, 02 May 2008 15:49:48 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7404 "Though some of the sheep may wander, the eye of the Shepherd is upon them, and sooner or later they will feel the tentacles of Divine Providence reaching out after them and drawing them back to the fold. Either in this life or the life to come, they will return." This reminds me of a teaching I read about a Buddhist teaching about the six realms of existence. In the Heaven realm and Hell realm, plus the other four in between realms, there are Bodhisattvas ready to teach the inhabitants of each realm to awaken. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms “Though some of the sheep may wander, the eye of the Shepherd is upon them, and sooner or later they will feel the tentacles of Divine Providence reaching out after them and drawing them back to the fold. Either in this life or the life to come, they will return.”

This reminds me of a teaching I read about a Buddhist teaching about the six realms of existence. In the Heaven realm and Hell realm, plus the other four in between realms, there are Bodhisattvas ready to teach the inhabitants of each realm to awaken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms

]]> By: C. L. Hanson http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7403 C. L. Hanson Fri, 02 May 2008 05:44:43 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7403 Re: Yeah, that phrase “the tentacles of Divine Providence” is certainly ominous. Sounds like a Christian-themed H.P. Lovecraft novel. Actually it's a reference to FSM. Even if you think you're talking about a different religion, his noodly appendage will touch you. Re: Yeah, that phrase “the tentacles of Divine Providence” is certainly ominous. Sounds like a Christian-themed H.P. Lovecraft novel.

Actually it’s a reference to FSM. Even if you think you’re talking about a different religion, his noodly appendage will touch you.

]]> By: Wayne http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7397 Wayne Thu, 01 May 2008 15:20:28 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7397 Heh, I may be able to resist; unless it feels good....... If the celestial is ruled by dualistic thinking I may be required to go there. lol Heh, I may be able to resist; unless it feels good…….

If the celestial is ruled by dualistic thinking I may be required to go there. lol

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7395 Jonathan Blake Thu, 01 May 2008 02:39:28 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7395 And truth be told, we're already there. We just need to wake up to it. And truth be told, we’re already there. We just need to wake up to it.

]]> By: Jason Richards http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7394 Jason Richards Thu, 01 May 2008 02:37:54 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7394 Of course you're going to the Celestial Kingdom. It's not a question of if, but rather of when. Eternity's a long time.............................. Of course you’re going to the Celestial Kingdom. It’s not a question of if, but rather of when. Eternity’s a long time…………………………

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7387 Jonathan Blake Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:04:16 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2008/04/29/im-going-to-the-celestial-kingdom/#comment-7387 Interesting about D&C 130, though it's not exactly clear whether the higher kingdoms a greater in glory or whether they were just higher in the divine hierarchy (e.g. Kolob where God dwells is a celestial glory but will govern the sanctified, celestial earth). On this note, back a few years ago I realized that <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/76/89-90#89">D&C 76:89–90</a> implies that Joseph understood that we on earth aren't part of the telestial glory. The telestial glory must be revealed to us. The word "reveal" implies that there is a veil between us and the telestial glory. I even made <a href="http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/Kingdoms%20-%20new%20cosmology.pdf">a diagram of how I came to understand that scripture.</a> Interesting about D&C 130, though it’s not exactly clear whether the higher kingdoms a greater in glory or whether they were just higher in the divine hierarchy (e.g. Kolob where God dwells is a celestial glory but will govern the sanctified, celestial earth).

On this note, back a few years ago I realized that D&C 76:89–90 implies that Joseph understood that we on earth aren’t part of the telestial glory. The telestial glory must be revealed to us. The word “reveal” implies that there is a veil between us and the telestial glory. I even made a diagram of how I came to understand that scripture.

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