Comments on: Pity for the Damned http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/ One Mormon boy’s iconoclastic quest to remix and rectify his notions of truth, mind, myth, love, life, and transcendence. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:50:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-601 Jonathan Blake Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:30:43 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-601 I'm happy you find some support in my ramblings. :) It helps me to come to terms with my religious background to talk things out. I'm glad you're along for the ride. I’m happy you find some support in my ramblings. :) It helps me to come to terms with my religious background to talk things out. I’m glad you’re along for the ride.

]]> By: Rodney http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-600 Rodney Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:02:59 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-600 It at least helps me to know that there are others who understand and empathize with me. Love your blog. It is an important part of my support network. To stay sane, I visualize a day when others will go through the 'awakening' and I will be able to be there for them. If only they would realize that I will be no more there for them than I am right now. It at least helps me to know that there are others who understand and empathize with me. Love your blog. It is an important part of my support network.

To stay sane, I visualize a day when others will go through the ‘awakening’ and I will be able to be there for them. If only they would realize that I will be no more there for them than I am right now.

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Well said. I don’t think anyone is going to explicitly try to make my children ashamed. It’s just the pervasive message that anyone who isn’t LDS is somehow… defective or lacking. And well, there’s crazy ol’ Dad being his embarrassingly un-Mormon self. Can’t he just hide while my friends are around? sigh

]]> By: Rodney http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-588 Rodney Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:48:01 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-588 As someone is a similar situation, it is not that I fear one or several people trying to make my children ashamed of me, rather, it is the group-think/culture that will cause it to happen. So in the end there is no one to blame or confront. It is insidious and vague. And it happens slowly and subtly so that combatting it is nearly impossible. As someone is a similar situation, it is not that I fear one or several people trying to make my children ashamed of me, rather, it is the group-think/culture that will cause it to happen. So in the end there is no one to blame or confront. It is insidious and vague. And it happens slowly and subtly so that combatting it is nearly impossible.

]]> By: tracy m http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-587 tracy m Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:27:28 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-587 If someone tries to make your children ashamed of you, the shame is on them, not on you or your children. I am so sorry for your worries. If someone tries to make your children ashamed of you, the shame is on them, not on you or your children. I am so sorry for your worries.

]]> By: Jonathan Blake http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-586 Jonathan Blake Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:23:20 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-586 jana, Life has a funny way of turning our judgments back on us. It's almost enough to make me believe in literal Karma. :) tracy m, Thanks for the reassurance. My biggest worry is about my children being made ashamed of me, but I suppose that is par for the course (at some point and to some degree). jana,

Life has a funny way of turning our judgments back on us. It’s almost enough to make me believe in literal Karma. :)

tracy m,

Thanks for the reassurance. My biggest worry is about my children being made ashamed of me, but I suppose that is par for the course (at some point and to some degree).

]]> By: tracy m http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-585 tracy m Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:45:33 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-585 As a convert (5 years) with a husband who was a practicing Budhist for 12 years before he became a member (2 years ago)- let me just say: Worry not. Not all members have a one-dimensional picture of people, or of how people express themselves spiritually. Even though I am a convert to the LDS faith, I have not left behind what I knew before, and neither has my husband- we are richer people for that. I don't feel the gospel of Christ requires me to leave behind all that made me who I am- I just look at things differently. We get into trouble as a religion when we confuse the culture of Mormonism for the teachings of Christ. Not even in the same ballpark, folks. No judgement will ever come from this quarter. As a convert (5 years) with a husband who was a practicing Budhist for 12 years before he became a member (2 years ago)- let me just say: Worry not.

Not all members have a one-dimensional picture of people, or of how people express themselves spiritually. Even though I am a convert to the LDS faith, I have not left behind what I knew before, and neither has my husband- we are richer people for that. I don’t feel the gospel of Christ requires me to leave behind all that made me who I am- I just look at things differently.

We get into trouble as a religion when we confuse the culture of Mormonism for the teachings of Christ. Not even in the same ballpark, folks.

No judgement will ever come from this quarter.

]]> By: jana http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-580 jana Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:47:28 +0000 http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoasis/2007/06/17/pity-for-the-damned/#comment-580 Been there. Done that. Guilty as charged on all counts. I do hope (but it's certainly a vain one) that I won't be judged as I judged others. Been there. Done that. Guilty as charged on all counts.

I do hope (but it’s certainly a vain one) that I won’t be judged as I judged others.

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